Two Expert Scientists Debate The Mortality (Death) Effects of COVID-19 Vaccines: Was it Really 17 Million?


by Arjun Walia, The Pulse:

This article explores the epidemiological evidence regarding the mortality effects of the COVID-19 vaccines, and recent claims made by Bret Weinstein.

How many people have died from COVID-19 vaccines? It’s an impossible question to answer, especially given the fact that multiple countries have ineffectual vaccine injury surveillance systems.

The CDC claims that serious vaccine injuries occur in approximately 1 in a million people, yet they claim such a number without a proper adverse events reporting systems in place. Why don’t they provide any sources or data for their claim?


It’s already well known that serious adverse reactions (like death and permanent disability) are subjected to widespread and significant under-reporting when it comes to prescription drugs. But what about vaccines? And what about vaccines prior to COVID-19 jabs?

Three Harvard medical scholars (professors Ross Lazarus, Michael Klompas, and Steve Bernstein) emphasized in a 2011 report titled “Electronic Support for Public Health–Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (ESP:VAERS)” that:

“Adverse events from drugs and vaccines are common, but underreported. Although 25% of ambulatory patients experience an adverse drug event, less than 0.3% of all adverse drug events and 1-13% of serious events are reported to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Likewise, fewer than 1% of vaccine adverse events are reported. Low reporting rates preclude or slow the identification of “problem” drugs and vaccines that endanger public health. New surveillance methods for drug and vaccine adverse effects are needed.”

Other than this information, there doesn’t seem to be any adequate data regarding vaccine injury surveillance. The authors also failed to specify what type of injuries are mostly unreported. I guess we can’t really know that because they are indeed unreported. If we’re talking about a sore arm, or getting sick after a flu shot, it doesn’t mean anything.

This is why vaccine injuries and serious adverse events were considered extremely rare among medical professionals before COVID-19 shots. But things have changed.

The COVID pandemic marked the first time in history when renowned vaccine experts, developers, scientists and doctors were labelled as “anti-vaxxers” en masse.

But there were signals for concern before COVID-19. For example, after 30 years of observation, it was shown that children vaccinated with the DTP shot were dying of other causes at 10 times the rate of the unvaccinated. We would have never known about this if no one looked.

What else have we missed? Could we be missing something now? This was actually what led to the passing of the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, which has since protected vaccine manufacturers from any liability.

“This law also created the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, to “protect” and warn the public of potential vaccine danger; a system that has been shown to underreport injuries as commonly as it gets ignored.”

Dr. Madhava Setty, a board certified anesthesiologist, electrical engineer, author.

Then COVID-19 Vaccines Came Along

On July 16th, 1999, the CDC recommended that healthcare providers suspend the use of the licensed, RotaShield – a rotavirus vaccine – after only 15 cases of intussusception were reported to VAERS. But now, multiple vaccine injury reporting systems, including VAERS, have had millions of serious adverse reactions reported as a result of COVID-19 vaccines.

In fact, more than 50 percent of vaccine injuries reported to VAERS since its inception are all due to COVID products. This is a jaw-dropping fact. Yet during the pandemic these signals were cast away as mere “conspiracy theories” as a result of “misinformation.”

Sure, VAERS is a self-reporting system that lends itself to inaccurate and fabricated reports, but it’s safe to say a concerning signal has been detected. So why not properly investigate and acknowledge that there could be cause for concern?

“They are not being ignored because they are fabricated or inaccurate; they are being ignored because our health authorities have chosen not to investigate them.”

– Setty

All of this has led to multiple experts in the field with differing opinions on just how many people have died as a result of COVID-19 vaccination. One thing for certain is people have died as a result of COVID-19 vaccination.

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